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good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched the republican nomination. he's doing it now kind of on the late side. it is the same sort of more centrist message that we heard in the debate last week. >> clearly, this is sort of across the board campaign theme that the democrats pushing. listen to bill clinton in vegas. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought -- i thought -- wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you the last two years. now the problem with this deal is the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself for two whole years. until three, four days before the debate they all got together and said hey,
good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched the republican nomination. he's doing it now kind of on the late...
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thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> you know, joan, this is breath taking even for romney. >> it really is. you know, i have a tiny bit of sympathy for his campaign, reverend al, now, because they are people who follow around the parade with the pooper scooper. every time he says something like that -- i feel like i've gotten into a rhythm now. he's said something controversial. wait one, two, three. somebody is going to give a statement to the national review. he didn't mean that either. whether it's the pre-existing thing or choice. the amount of legislation coming down the pike, and also what romney knows about that legislation because he framed it in a wriggle room way. even with all of those outs, he's still lying. he knows he's losing with women. >> that's the point. it's like he'll do anything to close the deal. it's like he's still in the venture capital business, close the deal, say anything. and erin, the president is calling him on this. let me show you what we just got in, what the president said in an interview today. >> he thinks that it is appropriate for po
thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> you know, joan, this is breath taking even for romney. >> it really is. you know, i have a tiny bit of sympathy for his campaign, reverend al, now, because they are people who follow around the parade with the pooper scooper. every time he says something like that -- i feel like i've gotten into a rhythm now. he's said something controversial. wait one, two, three. somebody is going to give a statement to the national review....
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there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're beyond -- if i put a size 10 feet -- foot in a size 8 shoe there are structural problems. i have a choice to choose from. >> tell me about it. >> okay. so my high heels hurt me as well. the reality is that to make the argument about vouchers is really to talk about a philosophical difference but the philosophical difference rests on the convenience and luxury to say we're going to give a voucher to some to make the choice, that misunderstands the fact that so many other people don't have choices and the people that are left behind are forced into a situation over which they exercise no control. so the illusion of
there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're...
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both campaigns have hit the reset button. the president has a revamped stump speech that starts with a list of his accomplishments. it has a sharper tone, too. here he's insinuating romney's being less than honest about his tax
both campaigns have hit the reset button. the president has a revamped stump speech that starts with a list of his accomplishments. it has a sharper tone, too. here he's insinuating romney's being less than honest about his tax
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today mitt romney continues his week long visit there to ohio. no rp,-c won the white house without carrying the buckeye state. earlier president obama wrapped up his 17th rally there. that's the most of any other state. with all the new polls out showing a much tighter race, both candidates definitely know, it's on. and they have to trade serious shots. this one in particular over the tax plan. it's true it's not going to have the deficit. that leaves one option. that's asking middle class families to foot the bill. >> the president's charge of a $5 trillion tax cut is inaccurate and wrong. meanwhile, the vice presidential debate is scheduled for tomorrow. >>> 2,000 jobs are up for graps today in the south gay. 50 employers were there this event is free and ones until 1:00 this afternoon. good morning. it was an idea that was first announced last mont if you ever wonder what goes on at twitter, you can this friday. you have to register first. you see on the screen in the white part there's the web address. shares in apple recovering after highs.
today mitt romney continues his week long visit there to ohio. no rp,-c won the white house without carrying the buckeye state. earlier president obama wrapped up his 17th rally there. that's the most of any other state. with all the new polls out showing a much tighter race, both candidates definitely know, it's on. and they have to trade serious shots. this one in particular over the tax plan. it's true it's not going to have the deficit. that leaves one option. that's asking middle class...
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they were in poiar m ra on, both governor romney and governor chris christie. >> get the government get out of the yanucc ca you not likely to hear romney use words like "hell," but chris christie got it out in the first couple of seconds. romney will campaign inio today but t bigv ihe idalebemo aorlshomn has regained the lead. the momentum is here, and there is increasing anxiety among the democrats over worry that the president could be losing. with to new momentu mit eyin bto omusrd j d th tob record ask not deserve re-election as he has been saying now since the convention, saying the country cannot afor another four more years of this. can cgrola,thank y, carl io. >>shepard: this is on the east of the first and only scheduled vice presidential debate with less than a month until the election. polls are tightening. the stakes are gh. ce pdeen u es t rseomm r apren ams performance and the v.p. has decades of experience and he has had some great debates. youtube, goole it, look it up. but he has the reputationor ffes which makes it grt. paul an, oas l hen'enedem t maybe he will capita
they were in poiar m ra on, both governor romney and governor chris christie. >> get the government get out of the yanucc ca you not likely to hear romney use words like "hell," but chris christie got it out in the first couple of seconds. romney will campaign inio today but t bigv ihe idalebemo aorlshomn has regained the lead. the momentum is here, and there is increasing anxiety among the democrats over worry that the president could be losing. with to new momentu mit eyin bto...
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romney campaign, and starts off our coverage in cuyahoga falls, ohio. peter, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you. we're seeing real evidence that this race is tightening, not just nationally, but in crucial battlegrounds like here in ohio. with both candidates descending on the buckeye state, the o in ohio could easily stand for offense. a poll released late this afternoon shows president obama's lead has shrunk to just four points. touching down on akron on the last day ohioans will vote. mitt romney will campaign here four of the last five days. the president just wrapped up his 17th rally here, more than any other state. >> do not delay, go vote today. what do you think? all right, buckeyes, we need you. >> reporter: why all the attention on ohio? no republican has won the white house without it. romney advisers insist the race has fundamentally changed here since last week. just weeks ago, the campaign briefly considered its path forward without ohio. >> we feel it's going to be close again until the end, but we feel we have an ent
romney campaign, and starts off our coverage in cuyahoga falls, ohio. peter, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you. we're seeing real evidence that this race is tightening, not just nationally, but in crucial battlegrounds like here in ohio. with both candidates descending on the buckeye state, the o in ohio could easily stand for offense. a poll released late this afternoon shows president obama's lead has shrunk to just four points. touching down on akron on the last day...
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he and romney are both here in "high owe. we were at a rally in northeast ohio with 10,000 cheering people. they took the president's election chant and turned it back on him. >> i've been watching some of president obama's rallies and they chant four more years, four more years. today there are 28 days before the election. i think the right chant ought to be for them, four more weeks, four more weeks. >> four more weeks. four more weeks. >> reporter: romney argued the president to detract from his failed record is focusing on the small things instead of focusing on jobs and the economy. an example of a small thing, a big bird. >> so he's focused on saving big bird is kind of a strange thing in my view. i'm focused on helping the american people get good jobs and brighter prospects. >> reporter: across the state in columbus president obama was talking about big bird highlighting an issue in last week's debate when romney said one cut he would make to balance the budget was funding for public television. >> he's decided we're
he and romney are both here in "high owe. we were at a rally in northeast ohio with 10,000 cheering people. they took the president's election chant and turned it back on him. >> i've been watching some of president obama's rallies and they chant four more years, four more years. today there are 28 days before the election. i think the right chant ought to be for them, four more weeks, four more weeks. >> four more weeks. four more weeks. >> reporter: romney argued the...
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good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> ron, is mitt romney trying to move more to the center? what does his statement mean? >> first of all, mitt romney is going to be a pro life president and his campaign is saying he will have a pro life agenda. in that same interview with the des moines register, he said he would reinstitute the mexico city policy, which would end federal funding for abortions overseas in other countries. right now he's talking about what voters care about, which is jobs, the economy, rising deficits. >> i understand. hang on. hang on. hang on. ron, we're not going to do talking points here. i'm asking you a very simple question. >> i'm not doing talking points. >> i didn't ask you about the economy. we can get to that. what did he mean in his statement that seems to be contradictory statements? >> i just told you what he meant. he said that his agenda is not going to be focused on abortion. it's going to be -- he did not say it was going to be focused on other issues, but obviously it's going to be. that's why he talked about the economy, what voters care
good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> ron, is mitt romney trying to move more to the center? what does his statement mean? >> first of all, mitt romney is going to be a pro life president and his campaign is saying he will have a pro life agenda. in that same interview with the des moines register, he said he would reinstitute the mexico city policy, which would end federal funding for abortions overseas in other countries. right now he's talking about what voters...
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president obama, both talking about that. first, bill clinton. >> i thought, wow, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i miss eed you all these last f years. >> governor romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from position he had taken or doubling down on thing like medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term. >> so, jim, does the nuance here on abortion by romney, does it play into what the president and others are saying, that romney is reinventing himself here, you know, 27 days before the election? >> well, the romney campaign would argue, no, but you are right that the obama campaign is starting to seize on this, the obama campaign had a conference call earlier this morning and they latched on to something mitt romney said at the cpac conference in february of this year when mitt romney said he was a severely conservative governor. stephanie cutter said on the conference call that, quote, his severely conservative positions that got him through the gop primary
president obama, both talking about that. first, bill clinton. >> i thought, wow, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i miss eed you all these last f years. >> governor romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from position he had taken or doubling down on thing like medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term. >> so, jim, does the nuance here on abortion by romney, does it play into what the president and others are...
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i do know that focus groups, both romney campaign ran and the obama campaign ran showed these remarks really alienated independent voters and even weak republicans. which indicates to me that this comes up again in the debate and advertising, it will remind people. they forgot about it or responding to the debate. host: let's go to phone calls. barb, democratic caller you're on the air. caller: i would like to say that romney expressed his real feeling about the 47%. it cannot be ignored. also understand that he signed grover norquist pledge. if he did that, he cannot represent 100% of the population because if you say that you're going to ignore the situation that the country is in, you cannot say that you unequivocally ignore taxes and to get income to support the country. with that, he could not represent me and the middle class and or poor people. host: we'll leave it there. john in north carolina, tweets in this though. the 53% are not in the least offended by the comment which was by and large true. guest: everyone has their right to their opinion here. the poll showed that actu
i do know that focus groups, both romney campaign ran and the obama campaign ran showed these remarks really alienated independent voters and even weak republicans. which indicates to me that this comes up again in the debate and advertising, it will remind people. they forgot about it or responding to the debate. host: let's go to phone calls. barb, democratic caller you're on the air. caller: i would like to say that romney expressed his real feeling about the 47%. it cannot be ignored. also...
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. >> ifill: both campaigns are stepping up their games. republican volunteers crowded into this weekend phone bank after the first debate. when you talk to voters after the debate, are people saying "well okay, i'm giving him a second look?" >> yes, definitely, definitely. the majority of them i'm speaking to are saying hey, we see what you've been seeing. we're on. we're on with you girl. so that's great! >> ifill: even the undecided maura fletcher said she was impressed by romney's performance. >> he's polished, he answers questions succinctly. what he said made sense to me. >> ifill: chris kennedy, who runs the jefferson county democratic party, organized a local candidates chili cook-off this past weekend. he conceded the debate may have made his job more difficult. >> there were probably a few unaffiliated who went romney's way after that. i'm not going to lie. but we have the stronger campaign on the ground. and i think president obama has a stronger message that resonates with more people. and i think that's going to bring us to the
. >> ifill: both campaigns are stepping up their games. republican volunteers crowded into this weekend phone bank after the first debate. when you talk to voters after the debate, are people saying "well okay, i'm giving him a second look?" >> yes, definitely, definitely. the majority of them i'm speaking to are saying hey, we see what you've been seeing. we're on. we're on with you girl. so that's great! >> ifill: even the undecided maura fletcher said she was...
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. >> both presidential debates touched down in ohio tuesday night with mitt romney campaigning near youngstown and president obama at the ohio state university in columbus. the vice presidential candidates continue to prepare for their first debate thursday night in kentucky. in the newsroom, tom fitzgerald, fox 5 news. >> joining us now, fox 5 political analyst. mark, according to pew, which groups dropped off the most? >> this is really astounding numbers, brian. among women, he was up, the president was, by 18 points. now they are running even now. among people who are 50 and younger, a group very much favorable to president obama, a short time ago, president was up 17 points in that category and it's now even. and then among independents, he is losing too. so these are dramatic reversals for president obama from constituencies that were very much in his camp. >> romney saw a bump in every swing state, but why spending so much time in ohio these days? >> ohio, the mother of presidents. eight presidents from ohio. you're going to hear this ad and i add to it, no republican has ever been elec
. >> both presidential debates touched down in ohio tuesday night with mitt romney campaigning near youngstown and president obama at the ohio state university in columbus. the vice presidential candidates continue to prepare for their first debate thursday night in kentucky. in the newsroom, tom fitzgerald, fox 5 news. >> joining us now, fox 5 political analyst. mark, according to pew, which groups dropped off the most? >> this is really astounding numbers, brian. among...
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both men campaigned in ohio tuesday. jan crawford is covering the romney campaign in akron. good morning, jan. >> reporter: good morning, anthony, norah. this is a state that romney really needs to win. he's spending four days here this week. we were at a rally here in northeast ohio last night. there were about 10,000 people there and they took the president's re-election chance and turned it on him. >> i've been watching some of president obama's rallies and they chant four more years, four more years and today there are 28 days before the election. i think the right chant ought to be for them is four more weeks. four more weeks. >> reporter: romney argued the president to detract from his failed record is focusing on the small things and instead of focusing on jobs and the economy an example of a small thing a big bird. >> he's focused on saving big bird is kind of a strange thing in my view because you see i'm focused on helping the american people get good jobs and brighter prospects. >> reporter: across the state in columbus, president obama was talking about big bird,
both men campaigned in ohio tuesday. jan crawford is covering the romney campaign in akron. good morning, jan. >> reporter: good morning, anthony, norah. this is a state that romney really needs to win. he's spending four days here this week. we were at a rally here in northeast ohio last night. there were about 10,000 people there and they took the president's re-election chance and turned it on him. >> i've been watching some of president obama's rallies and they chant four more...
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welcome both. i'm guessing this is the only time you put on suits now. does the winner of the presidential decide control of the state senate? there's no question that it impacts races. we have said from the beginning that we think senate races can stand on their own. >> if mitt romney wins the presidency, what chances do democrats have of retaining control of the united states? >> when you look at the battleground states that you listinged. after of those states are republican held seats. >> can you gain control if president obama wins re-election? >> sure, chuck and here's why, we're win right now in connecticut, we're winning in wisconsin. we got a little separation last week or so. governor romney's strong performance, really the resurgence for the party so we feel like we have a great path to the majority with or without governor romney winning. >> let me start with a virginia. can george allen win without mitt romney carrying the state? >> obviously it would be easier if romney won the state. the problem that tim kaine has is that this is a guy sup
welcome both. i'm guessing this is the only time you put on suits now. does the winner of the presidential decide control of the state senate? there's no question that it impacts races. we have said from the beginning that we think senate races can stand on their own. >> if mitt romney wins the presidency, what chances do democrats have of retaining control of the united states? >> when you look at the battleground states that you listinged. after of those states are republican held...
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dash says paul ryanalled her to say both he and mitt romney appreciate her support and tat onn hitogaspk t, backlash author said this is nothing new. >> the real war is against bck female conservatives, bla conservatives. there is a war on women. that's the real war onomen noilest ach to s ddie f sandra fluke after she got criticized for speak out. now it's time to do a weather forecast. >> steve: look where it's raining. portion of the great lakes, through the ohio valley. also a little action here in new yorkity. wire asome o oee onso id a se just to the north of san francisco. otherwise the balance of the country, nice and dry. current temperatures, we've got 20s and 30s out in the northern plains. 60s and 70s across much ofixie . tohi wednesday, it's going to be 72, room temperature, in raleigh. 88 in san antonio and for our friends who are watching right now in cleveland and the ohio valley, temperatures today in > kideeryo dheriun >>angh thea aku.s. consulate in libya which killed four americans including ambassador stevens. today a house committee will finally attempt to uncover w
dash says paul ryanalled her to say both he and mitt romney appreciate her support and tat onn hitogaspk t, backlash author said this is nothing new. >> the real war is against bck female conservatives, bla conservatives. there is a war on women. that's the real war onomen noilest ach to s ddie f sandra fluke after she got criticized for speak out. now it's time to do a weather forecast. >> steve: look where it's raining. portion of the great lakes, through the ohio valley. also a...
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some democrats are accusing mitt romney of trying to straddle both sides of the debate in an interview with the "des moines register" yesterday romney said he doesn't intend to push for legislation to restrict abortion if he is elected president. here's the quote. "there is no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda." but then he goes on to say that he is still firmly "pro-life." abortion is, of course, a big talker right now among female voters in particular, and that's a group romney has been having a hard time attracting. if the goal is to bring in more women into the republican fold, is saying abortion isn't going to be an issue going to be enough? >> maybe a first step, if that's what mitt romney is trying to do here. his campaign is pushing back on that. fred, historically, there's been a gender gap when it comes to presidential elections. the majority of women tend to favor the democratic candidates. jorlt of men tend to favor the republican candidates. it's still around this cycle. take a look at this from gallop. this is
some democrats are accusing mitt romney of trying to straddle both sides of the debate in an interview with the "des moines register" yesterday romney said he doesn't intend to push for legislation to restrict abortion if he is elected president. here's the quote. "there is no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda." but then he goes on to say that he is still firmly "pro-life." abortion is, of course, a big...
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and mitt romney has more appearances there today. abc's karen travers is joining us this morning with more on this very close race. good morning, karen. >> reporter: good morning, rob. good morning, sunny. good luck trying to make sense of any polls over the last couple days. one thing is clear this race has gotten tighter. mitt romney was back in iowa for the first time in nearly a month. >> iowa is going to help elect me the next president of the united states. >> reporter: flying over his event this sign mocking him for the comments about big bird at last week's debate. the obama campaign is also trying to keep that in the news with this new ad. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> reporter: republicans say the president's campaign is showing signs of desperation. >> these are tough times. with real serious, use. so you have to scratch your head when the president spend the last week talking about saving big bird. >> election day, weeks away, getting a solid read on where the race stand is not easy. a
and mitt romney has more appearances there today. abc's karen travers is joining us this morning with more on this very close race. good morning, karen. >> reporter: good morning, rob. good morning, sunny. good luck trying to make sense of any polls over the last couple days. one thing is clear this race has gotten tighter. mitt romney was back in iowa for the first time in nearly a month. >> iowa is going to help elect me the next president of the united states. >> reporter:...
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. >> romney's going to play a very fine line because he is trying to move to the middle. and what we need to do on the democratic side is say he moves both ways. he's inconsistent. he really has no backbone, no spine. you cannot have that type of personality when you're a president of the united states. in every position that he has ever held in the governor and now as a candidate he's flipped positions on any issue he's ever had to deal with. >> not any. >> wait. come on. >> during the republican debates, his opponents kept saying, wait a minute, when you were governor of massachusetts you were for gay marriage, pro-abortion rights. he says i changed since then. so he changed during the republican time and now he's changing back. >> toto, we're not in kansas anymore. mitt, we're not in the republican primary anymore. we're not running for a faction of the republican party. we're running to be government -- to lead the government of the entire united states. >> so say whatever he wants as long as he gets elected. >> i don't know where the moral high ground is for presiden
. >> romney's going to play a very fine line because he is trying to move to the middle. and what we need to do on the democratic side is say he moves both ways. he's inconsistent. he really has no backbone, no spine. you cannot have that type of personality when you're a president of the united states. in every position that he has ever held in the governor and now as a candidate he's flipped positions on any issue he's ever had to deal with. >> not any. >> wait. come on....
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dash says paul ryan called her to say both he and mitt romney appreciate her support and that she was brave to speak out. on sean hannity's program last night, backlash author said this is nothing new. >> the real war is against black female conservatives, black conservatives. there is a war on women. that's the real war on women. >> gretchen: the big question now, will president obama reach out to stacy dash as did he for sandra fluke after she got criticized for speak out. now it's time to do a weather forecast. >> steve: look where it's raining. portion of the great lakes, through the ohio valley. also a little action here in new york city. i see people out on the street with umbrellas at this moment. action in south florida and some just to the north of san francisco. otherwise the balance of the country, nice and dry. current temperatures, we've got 20s and 30s out in the northern plains. 60s and 70s across much of dixie land. back through texas and later today on this wednesday, it's going to be 72, room temperature, in raleigh. 88 in san antonio and for our friends who are watc
dash says paul ryan called her to say both he and mitt romney appreciate her support and that she was brave to speak out. on sean hannity's program last night, backlash author said this is nothing new. >> the real war is against black female conservatives, black conservatives. there is a war on women. that's the real war on women. >> gretchen: the big question now, will president obama reach out to stacy dash as did he for sandra fluke after she got criticized for speak out. now...
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the sources that i talked to on both sides of the aisle say this is going to be an aggressive forward leading joe biden, somebody who's going to want to really frame a negative message against romney and ryan, and pick up where the president didn't do that well last week, or didn't mention at all, thinking of issues like the auto ballot, social security, the ryan proposal on that. the medicare issue, the 47% comment that romney made and people were stunned that obama didn't mention that last week. and, of course, romney's income taxes and how he made his money at bain consulting. those are all issues i think we will hear from joe biden on. and it is very different than what biden's pass was four years ago, steve, as you recall facing sarah palin. the biggest challenge been for biden was don't patronize sarah palin, don't bully sarah palin certainly, try to a quarter to a certain degree of respect. i think this is a different time, and paul ryan is a different opponent. >> there's been what some are calling the rebuttal as both congressman paul ryan, republican vice president to nomina
the sources that i talked to on both sides of the aisle say this is going to be an aggressive forward leading joe biden, somebody who's going to want to really frame a negative message against romney and ryan, and pick up where the president didn't do that well last week, or didn't mention at all, thinking of issues like the auto ballot, social security, the ryan proposal on that. the medicare issue, the 47% comment that romney made and people were stunned that obama didn't mention that last...